test
test1
test
How far in advance should I order for a seasonal deadline?
Further than most buyers expect, and the reason is approval rather than production. Shade approval on a custom color, artwork proofing on a printed run, and sea freight transit all sit ahead of the date you need cartons in hand. Seasonal orders that fail almost always fail on the approval cycle rather than on manufacturing.
How far in advance should I order for a seasonal deadline?
Further than most buyers expect, and the reason is approval rather than production. Shade approval on a custom color, artwork proofing on a printed run, and sea freight transit all sit ahead of the date you need cartons in hand. Seasonal orders that fail almost always fail on the approval cycle rather than on manufacturing.
Do these cartons meet food contact requirements?
Eggs sit inside their own shell, so egg cartons are generally treated as secondary rather than direct food contact packaging in most jurisdictions. Requirements still vary by market, particularly in the EU, and buyers should confirm what applies where they sell. We supply material declarations on request so your compliance team can assess it against local rules.
Can I order more than one cell count in a single shipment?
Yes, and most buyers do. Mixed loads are quoted per line and consolidated into one container, which is usually cheaper than separate shipments. What changes is production scheduling, since each mold runs separately, so a mixed order can carry a slightly longer lead time than a single format at the same total volume.
What is the difference between a molded pulp egg carton and a molded fiber one?
Nothing meaningful. The two terms describe the same process and the same material, and buyers use them interchangeably by region and by industry. Molded fiber is more common in electronics and industrial packaging, molded pulp more common in food and agriculture. Both refer to fiber drawn onto a mold under vacuum and pressed to shape.
What happens if a carton specification does not work once we test it?
Tell us what failed and how. Most fit problems trace to cell depth against an egg size we were not told about, and that is correctable. We would rather sample, have you test with your actual eggs and your actual handling, and adjust before a production run than ship a container of cartons that do not fit.
How far in advance should I order for a seasonal deadline?
Further than most buyers expect, and the reason is approval rather than production. Shade approval on a custom color, artwork proofing on a printed run, and sea freight transit all sit ahead of the date you need cartons in hand. Seasonal orders that fail almost always fail on the approval cycle rather than on manufacturing.
Do these cartons meet food contact requirements?
Eggs sit inside their own shell, so egg cartons are generally treated as secondary rather than direct food contact packaging in most jurisdictions. Requirements still vary by market, particularly in the EU, and buyers should confirm what applies where they sell. We supply material declarations on request so your compliance team can assess it against local rules.
Can I order more than one cell count in a single shipment?
Yes, and most buyers do. Mixed loads are quoted per line and consolidated into one container, which is usually cheaper than separate shipments. What changes is production scheduling, since each mold runs separately, so a mixed order can carry a slightly longer lead time than a single format at the same total volume.
What is the difference between a molded pulp egg carton and a molded fiber one?
Nothing meaningful. The two terms describe the same process and the same material, and buyers use them interchangeably by region and by industry. Molded fiber is more common in electronics and industrial packaging, molded pulp more common in food and agriculture. Both refer to fiber drawn onto a mold under vacuum and pressed to shape.
Can one mold cover both brown and white eggs?
Yes. Shell color has no bearing on cell fit. Egg size class does. A carton molded for large eggs handles both brown and white large eggs identically, since the grading standard is by weight rather than by shell color.
Do you supply cartons pre-labeled with grade shields?
We print what you supply as artwork, including grade shields and plant codes. We do not generate or verify regulatory content, since grade assignment and plant codes are issued to you and vary by jurisdiction. Give us print-ready files and we reproduce them exactly.
What causes the hinge to crack on a pulp carton?
Almost always under-pressing at the hinge line, where the fiber is thinnest by design. Correct forming leaves enough fiber density for repeated opening. If cartons crack on first open, the mold pressure or the pulp consistency was off. It is a production control issue rather than a limitation of the material.
How much does the printed version cost above blank?
Flexographic printing adds a plate charge per color, then a small per unit cost that falls as run length grows. Below a certain volume, embossing is cheaper because the cost is built into the mold and does not repeat. The crossover point depends on how many colors you need. We quote both so you can see the break-even against your annual volume.
Can a dozen egg carton run on an automatic packing line?
The 2×6 format usually can, since most lines were built around it. What matters is the infeed width tolerance and the lid hinge stiffness, since machine closers apply force at a fixed point. Send us your line make and model and we will confirm compatibility before you commit to tooling, or supply sample cartons for a trial run.
Is this carton accepted in curbside recycling?
It depends on the municipality rather than the product. Molded pulp egg cartons are made from short recycled fibers that have already been through several cycles, so some paper streams accept them and others direct them to compost. The carton composts in a home pile regardless. We advise printing a disposal instruction that matches your primary market.
How do you test top load strength?
Compression testing on a filled carton under progressive load until deformation, reported as the load at first structural failure. The figure only means something alongside the test method, the conditioning humidity, and whether the carton was tested filled or empty. We report all four, and we recommend asking any supplier for the same.
Can you produce this format with a flat top instead of a domed lid?
A flat top gives a better print surface and stacks marginally tighter, but it needs the reinforcing rib to be deeper to compensate for the lost arch strength. We tool flat top eighteen counts as a custom mold rather than stock, so allow additional lead time.
Why does the eighteen count cost more per egg to package than a dozen?
It uses more material per egg than you might expect, because the reinforcing structure adds fiber that a twelve count does not need. It also prints at a higher cost per unit and nests slightly less efficiently. The packaging cost per egg is usually modest but it is not lower than a dozen, which surprises buyers who assume bulk always wins.
Will an 18 egg carton fit a standard refrigerator door shelf?
In most US refrigerators, yes, which is a large part of why the format sells. The carton runs about 305 mm long and 155 mm wide, which clears typical door bin dimensions. Compact and apartment sized refrigerators are the exception, and buyers targeting urban markets sometimes prefer two dozens for that reason.
Are these suitable for shipping fertile hatching eggs?
Many breeders use them for exactly that, inside an outer box. The deep cell immobilizes the egg, which matters more for hatch rate than cushioning does, since it is movement and rotation that damages the air cell. We do not make hatch rate claims, since outcomes depend on handling and transit time well beyond the packaging.
Do four counts nest as tightly as larger cartons?
Tighter, proportionally. The compact footprint and simple 2×2 geometry give a very clean nesting profile with no interrupting features. On a per egg basis, four counts occupy more container volume than a dozen because you ship three times as many cartons for the same eggs, so the freight advantage runs the other way.
Can I order four counts in a color that is not one of your six stock shades?
Yes. Custom pigment matching runs at a higher minimum than stock colors because the pulp slurry has to be batched specifically. Send a Pantone reference or a physical sample and we will produce a match sample before the full run. Expect a slight variation between pulp and a printed reference, since pigment behaves differently in fiber than in ink.
Why is the cell deeper than on your dozen carton?
Because four count buyers are usually packing larger eggs. Duck, jumbo, and heritage breed eggs all need more depth than a commercial large chicken egg. We cut the four count to the larger specification so it fits the products that actually ship in fours, rather than optimizing it for an egg size that rarely uses this format.
Is a 4 egg carton strong enough to ship on its own?
Not as a standalone parcel. It handles compression well but it has no drop protection at the corners, and parcel networks drop packages routinely. Use it as the inner carrier inside a rigid outer box with void fill. In that configuration it performs better than foam inserts and costs less.
What is the shelf life of a quail egg, and does the carton affect it?
Unwashed quail eggs stored cool typically hold quality longer than chicken eggs relative to their size, because the shell membrane is dense. The carton does not extend or shorten that. What pulp does contribute is moisture regulation, since fiber neither traps condensation against the shell nor dries it out the way a sealed plastic pack can.
Do you supply quail cartons with a clear window?
Windowed cartons require a plastic film insert, which breaks the single material construction and prevents the carton from composting as one unit. Buyers who want the eggs visible usually specify an open top tray inside a printed sleeve instead, which keeps everything fiber based.
Can quail cartons be printed, given how small the panel is?
Yes, but keep it to one element. A twelve cell quail lid gives around 90 square centimeters, enough for a brand mark and a short line of text. Embossing tends to work better than print at this scale because it does not need registration accuracy on a small curved panel.
How many quail eggs equal a chicken egg for recipe purposes?
Roughly four to five quail eggs match one large chicken egg by volume, since a quail egg runs 10 to 14 grams against about 57 grams. This is why twelve and twenty-four are common retail counts rather than six. It is worth stating on the pack, because shoppers new to quail eggs consistently ask.
Will these cartons fit Bobwhite and Button quail eggs as well as Coturnix?
Coturnix and Bobwhite both sit correctly, since their eggs fall within a similar size band. Button quail eggs are noticeably smaller at around 20 mm and sit loose in a standard quail cell. If you run Button quail exclusively, we recommend custom tooling rather than accepting a loose fit.
Do you supply cartons that work on Moba or Diamond grading equipment?
We supply to dimensional specification, and buyers running Moba, Diamond, or Sanovo equipment provide us the required carton tolerances from their machine documentation. We then produce and sample against those figures. We do not certify against specific equipment brands, since certification sits with the machine operator’s own trial.
How does molded pulp compare to foam on egg breakage rates?
Both perform well in transit, and neither has a decisive edge on breakage when correctly specified. The differences that matter commercially are elsewhere: pulp composts and foam does not, pulp nests for lower inbound freight, and an increasing number of retailers and jurisdictions restrict foam. We do not produce foam, so we would rather state that plainly than argue a performance gap that the data does not support.
Can I use the same carton for washed and unwashed eggs?
The carton does not differ. What differs is handling and storage, since washed eggs have lost the natural cuticle and need refrigeration, while unwashed eggs can be held at room temperature in many jurisdictions. Pulp handles both because it regulates moisture rather than sealing it in.
Does a pullet egg need a different carton?
Pullet eggs from young hens fall into the peewee and small grades, roughly 35 to 43 grams, and they sit low in a standard bed. They are safe there, but they look sparse in the carton, which matters for retail presentation. Producers selling pullet eggs as a distinct product often use a shallower dedicated mold so the pack looks full.
What egg grade should I specify if my flock lays inconsistently?
Specify to your largest regular egg, not your average. A smaller egg in a deeper cell is protected. A larger egg in a shallow cell takes lid pressure and cracks. Most mixed flocks are best served by the deep bed, which covers extra large and jumbo while still holding large eggs securely enough for transport.
Can I get a color card before ordering?
Yes, and we recommend it. Screen renderings of pulp color are unreliable because fiber texture affects perceived shade. We send physical color chips of the six stock shades, and for custom work we produce a formed sample in the actual carton geometry, since a flat chip and a molded surface read differently.
Does the pigment transfer onto the eggshells?
No. The pigment is bound within the fiber structure, not sitting loose on the surface, and dry pulp does not transfer color under normal handling. A carton that marks the eggs would indicate a surface coated product with poor adhesion, which is one of the practical arguments for wet end coloring.
Why do colored cartons cost more than natural?
Three reasons. The pigment itself is an added material cost. Wet end color changes require the system to be flushed between shades, which is downtime. And colored runs cannot absorb variable incoming fiber the way natural production can, so more batches get rejected on shade. Stock colors cost less than custom because we run them continuously and avoid most of the changeover.
Can you match my exact brand color?
We can get close, and we produce a physical match sample before any full run so you can approve or adjust. Exact matching to a printed Pantone reference is not achievable in pigmented fiber, because pulp scatters light differently than coated paper does. Brands with a strict color standard usually approve a designated pulp equivalent rather than insisting on the ink reference.
Will colored cartons fade in sunlight?
Slowly, and mostly at a farm stand rather than in a cold case. Pulp pigments are less lightfast than printing inks because the palette is limited to compostable chemistries. Cartons held in direct sun for weeks will lighten, particularly in the blue and purple range. Retail cold cases and covered market stalls are not a problem.
How long does a custom pink shade take to approve?
Sample production runs to a physical formed sample, which is what you should approve rather than a flat chip. Building the shade, forming samples, and shipping them for approval takes time before production can begin. We recommend starting the approval cycle well ahead of a seasonal deadline, since October and Easter campaigns fail on timing far more often than on color.
What egg shell color looks best in a pink carton?
Brown and blue-green shells give the strongest result, since both contrast against pink. White eggs in a blush carton can look washed out because the tonal values sit close together. Producers running white eggs usually specify mid pink or deeper for that reason.
Can pink cartons be used for a compostable claim?
Yes, on the same basis as our natural cartons. The pigment is selected for compostable packaging use and is present in very small quantity by mass, with no coating or film involved. As with any compostability claim, the wording should match the certification actually held and the disposal infrastructure in your market.
Does pink cost more than your other stock colors?
Slightly, and the reason is rejection rate rather than pigment cost. Because pink is a light tint over a variable gray base, more batches fall outside the shade tolerance and get diverted. Darker colors absorb base variation and run cleaner. The difference is modest but it is real, and any supplier quoting all colors identically is probably not shade checking.
How much shade variation should I expect between orders?
With a retained physical standard on file, variation is small enough that cartons from different runs look the same on a shelf side by side. Without one, expect noticeable drift, since incoming recycled fiber varies seasonally and pink shows that variation more than any other shade. Approving and retaining a standard at first production is the single most useful thing a pink buyer can do.
Can you produce shapes other than eight sided?
Hexagonal and square footprints are both producible, and we have tooled round formats for specific gift applications. Facet count changes the internal cell layout, so each shape needs its own cell arrangement worked out at design stage rather than being a variation on the octagon mold.
Does the octagonal shape protect eggs better than a rectangle?
On corner impacts, modestly, because eight corners share load that four would concentrate. On compression and stacking, the two are comparable, since load path in both cases runs through the internal cone structure rather than the outer wall. The shape is chosen for presentation, and the impact benefit is a secondary advantage rather than the reason to specify it.
What is the practical minimum order for a custom octagon shape?
Higher than for a rectangular carton, because the tooling is more complex and the mold cost has to be recovered. Buyers testing the format should start on one of our existing octagon molds, which carries no tooling charge, and move to a bespoke facet count or dimension once the line is proven.
Can an octagon carton run through automatic packing equipment?
Generally not. Automatic lines are built around rectangular infeed geometry and expect a consistent leading edge. Octagon cartons are hand packed in almost every operation we supply. That fits their use case, since premium and gift volumes are usually low enough that hand packing is not a constraint.
Do octagon cartons stack on a pallet as securely as rectangular ones?
They stack, but the pallet pattern is less efficient because octagons leave void space between units. The stack itself is stable, since each carton sits flat on the one below and the eight corners spread the load. What you lose is cube utilization, so allow for fewer units per pallet than a rectangular equivalent of the same cell count.
Will the deep hinge crack if customers reuse the carton?
With repeated opening over weeks, eventually yes. The deep single fold concentrates flex in one line, which is the trade for a lid that lays flat. Modern multi-crease hinges last longer through reuse cycles. If your customers routinely return cartons for refilling, the modern profile is the more practical specification.
Do vintage cartons fit modern refrigerator door shelves?
The twelve cell runs slightly shallower than a modern domed carton at around 68 mm tall against 75 mm, so it fits comfortably where a modern one does. Length is the same. Buyers switching between profiles do not usually need to change anything downstream.
Can I print a full color illustration on the lid?
Yes, and the flat panel is the reason. Multi-color flexographic work holds registration on a flat surface in a way it cannot on a dome. Bear in mind that pulp texture softens fine detail regardless of print quality, so illustrations with heavy line work reproduce better than photographic images.
Does the flat top stack as well as a domed lid?
Better, in fact. A flat surface bears directly on the base of the carton above with no contour to slide against, so stacks stay square. What the flat top loses is the arch strength a dome provides, which we compensate for with rib structure underneath the panel. Net top load performance is comparable.
Are vintage cartons actually old, or reproductions?
They are newly manufactured to a historic profile. Genuinely old cartons are not food safe, since fiber packaging absorbs whatever it has been stored with and has no traceable material history. Our vintage cartons are produced from the same recycled pulp as the rest of the range, on molds cut to reproduce the flat top geometry
Can I use duck cartons for chicken eggs to simplify my stock?
You can, and the eggs will be safe, since a smaller egg in a deeper cell is protected rather than at risk. What you lose is presentation, because chicken eggs sit low and the carton reads as underfilled. Producers running both birds usually find the appearance penalty outweighs the simplicity of one SKU.
Do duck eggs need more ventilation than chicken eggs in packaging?
No, and pulp handles both identically. Duck eggs have a slightly less porous shell than chicken, which is part of why they keep marginally longer unwashed. What matters is that the packaging neither traps condensation nor dries the shell, and fiber does neither because it regulates moisture rather than sealing it.
How do I know whether my Muscovy eggs will fit before ordering?
Send us a few eggs, or send accurate measurements of your largest regular egg at both length and maximum girth. Length alone is not enough, since girth is what decides whether the egg seats or perches. We seat samples in a production carton and give you a direct answer rather than an estimate.
Are duck egg cartons more expensive than chicken?
Per carton, yes, because deeper and wider cells use more fiber and the larger footprint nests slightly less efficiently per container. Per egg sold, the difference is small against duck egg pricing. Buyers comparing the two on carton cost alone are measuring against the wrong denominator.
Will a duck carton work for shipping hatching eggs?
Inside an outer box with void fill, yes, and the deep cell is an advantage because it immobilizes the egg. Movement and rotation damage the air cell, which kills hatch rate well before the shell is at risk. We make no hatch rate claims, since outcomes depend on transit time and handling far beyond the packaging.
Can I get blank cartons with a flat top for easier labeling?
Yes, and it is worth specifying if labeling is the plan. A flat top gives a genuinely flat label area rather than a slightly domed one, which improves both application accuracy and adhesion at the label edges. The flat top profile is covered on the molded pulp vintage egg cartons page.
Is a blank carton lower quality than a printed one?
No. It comes off the same mold, at the same fiber density, with the same top load performance. The only difference is that no print pass was applied. Buyers sometimes assume blank means seconds or overruns, and that is a different product category entirely which we do not sell.
Can I order blank cartons in small quantities for a trial?
Blank carries our lowest minimum because there is no tooling or plate cost to recover. It is the right product for a first order while you test a format. We would rather supply a small blank run and have you come back than push a printed minimum onto a buyer who is still deciding.
What label adhesive works best on molded pulp?
General purpose permanent acrylic adhesives on uncoated paper face stock perform well. Avoid removable adhesives, which never develop sufficient bond on a porous surface, and avoid film face stocks, which lift at the edges. Your label supplier will know these as standard options; the substrate to specify is uncoated paper.
Will your company name appear anywhere on a blank carton?
No. Blank means blank, including no supplier identification, no mold numbers visible on the outer faces, and nothing on the base. Distributors reselling under their own name need that to be absolute, and we treat it as such rather than leaving a small mark somewhere.
Is lavender a good choice for an Easter range?
It is one of the standard four alongside pink, pale blue, and yellow, and buyers usually order the set together. Order them from one pigment campaign where volumes allow, so the four shades read as a coordinated family rather than as four separately matched colors.
Does purple cost more than your other stock colors?
Slightly, for the same reason pink does. Two pigment components have to be balanced against a variable base, so more batches fall outside shade tolerance and get diverted. Stock purple costs less than a custom matched shade, since we run it continuously and avoid most of the changeover.
Can you produce a true violet rather than a blue-purple?
We can move the balance toward the red end within the limits of compostable-rated pigments, and we send a formed sample so you can judge it physically. A highly saturated violet is outside what the available palette reaches, since the pigments that achieve it are not rated for compostable packaging. We will tell you plainly where a target shade sits outside our range.
How different will my reorder look from my first order?
With a retained physical standard on file, close enough that cartons from different runs look the same side by side. Without one, purple drifts more visibly than most shades because the eye detects hue shifts sharply in this range. Approving and retaining a standard at first production is the single most useful step for a purple buyer.
Why is purple less common in egg packaging than other colors?
Mostly inherited habit rather than any technical barrier. Egg packaging colors settled around natural, white, and green decades ago and the category has not moved much since. Purple is harder to hold consistently than mid-range shades, which discourages large converters running high volume, but for a specialty producer that difficulty is exactly what keeps the color uncontested.
Is green available in the vintage flat top profile?
Yes, and sage in particular is one of the combinations we run most often. The muted shade suits the period profile better than a bright green does, since mid century cartons were produced in natural fiber tones rather than saturated colors.
Can you match the green used by a specific brand?
We match to a Pantone reference or a physical sample as closely as pigmented fiber allows, and we send a formed sample for approval before production. Exact ink matching is not achievable in pulp. If the reference is a competitor’s carton rather than a printed standard, send us the physical carton and we will match against it directly.
Will green fade faster than other shades?
It sits better than blue and worse than black. Green pigments rated for compostable use have moderate lightfastness, so forest holds up well and sage shows lightening soonest under sustained direct sun. In refrigerated retail none of the range is affected.
Which green do most organic producers choose?
Mid green, because it is the shade that carries the category signal most clearly. Producers positioning above the category on quality rather than on method more often choose sage or forest, which read as premium rather than as organic.
Does a green carton help an organic certification claim?
No. Certification is granted on production practice and audited independently, and packaging color has no bearing on it. What green does is communicate a claim you already hold more quickly at the shelf. The certification mark itself still has to appear on the pack according to your certifier’s rules.
Does blue cost more than natural pulp?
Yes, as all pigmented shades do, and the difference comes from pigment cost plus the line flush required when changing color. Blue sits in the middle of our color range on price, above black on pigment cost per unit of coverage and below custom matched shades.
Is navy just black with less pigment?
No, they use different pigment systems entirely. Navy reads as a dark blue under daylight and shows its blue cast clearly against a true black carton placed beside it. Buyers who want near-black performance with a hint of color choose navy deliberately rather than as a compromise.
Can you match a specific Pantone blue?
We produce a close match and supply a formed physical sample for approval. Exact matching to a printed Pantone reference is not physically achievable in pigmented fiber, since pulp scatters light differently from coated paper. Brands with a strict standard approve a designated pulp equivalent rather than insisting on the ink reference.
How much fading should I expect at an outdoor market?
Visible lightening after sustained direct sun across weeks, with pale sky showing it first and navy showing it last. Cartons used and sold within days never see enough exposure to matter. The problem is stock sitting in sun between market days, which is solved by covering the pile rather than by changing shade.
Which blue should I choose if my hens lay blue eggs?
Pale sky, for a tonal match, or move away from blue entirely for contrast. Avoid mid blue and navy, which are strong enough to flatten a pale blue shell so the eggs stop registering as the distinctive thing they are. Order a sample and seat your actual eggs in it before committing.
Will black pigment rub off onto eggshells?
No. The pigment is bound within the fiber rather than applied to the surface, so there is nothing loose to transfer. Transfer onto eggs would indicate a surface coated carton with poor adhesion, which is one of the practical reasons we color at the wet end rather than coating afterward.
Does black cost more than your other stock colors?
Slightly, because the pigment loading is higher by mass than for a light tint. That is partly offset by a lower rejection rate, since black does not fail shade checks the way pink and pastels do. Net difference against other stock colors is small.
Can you print a photograph in white on black?
No, and not because of the color. Fiber texture breaks up continuous tone regardless of substrate, so photographic reproduction fails on pulp generally. A bold single color illustration in white on black reproduces well. A halftone image does not.
Will a black carton fade in sunlight?
Less than any other shade we produce. Black pigment has more lightfastness headroom than light tints, because fading is a proportional loss and there is far more pigment present to lose. Cartons held in strong sun for months will dull toward charcoal, but the effect is slower and less visible than on pastels.
Does a black carton compost as readily as a natural one?
Yes. The pigment is a very small fraction by mass and is selected for compostable packaging use, with no coating or film involved. Buyers sometimes assume heavy pigmentation means heavy additives, but the loading required to reach black in fiber is still minor against the mass of the fiber itself.
Do you make a combined carton for mixed specialty eggs?
No, and we would advise against one. A carton with cells of several sizes wastes space on every cell that is not filled, and it only works if a producer reliably has one of each bird on hand at packing time, which almost nobody does. Separate cartons per bird is the practical answer.
Why do goose cartons cost more per egg than chicken cartons?
Fiber quantity and freight. A goose cell uses several times the material of a chicken cell, and the larger footprint means far fewer cartons per container. Against goose egg pricing, which is substantially above chicken, the packaging cost per egg sold remains proportionate.
Are turkey eggs actually sold for eating?
Rarely at commercial scale, and the economics explain why. A turkey hen lays far fewer eggs than a laying hen and the bird is worth more as meat, so the eggs are usually set for hatching rather than sold. Most of our turkey carton demand comes from breeders shipping fertile eggs.
How do I pack a flock that lays goose and chicken eggs together?
Separately, and there is no way around it. The size gap is too large for any single mold to bridge without failing one bird or the other. Producers running both keep two carton lines, which is normal in mixed specialty operations and costs less than the breakage from compromising.
Can a bantam egg use a quail carton instead?
No, and the mismatch runs the other way from what people expect. A bantam egg at 25 to 35 grams is two to three times the weight of a quail egg, so it will not seat in a quail cell at all. Bantam needs its own geometry, sitting between quail and standard chicken.